Friday, June 27, 2008

Report: IDF pressuring religious girls to enlist


To those who would say, "Why don't they enlist?" I have to answer that many of these girls want to enlist, but if they do, they will suffer because they won't get the opportunity of shidduchim that they would get if they never enlisted.

Why is that, you say?

Because many of the rabbis have concluded that, because the girls may be subject to close quarters with men, and because many of the girls may be in the situation where they cannot refuse, that all of them should be considered to have been with a man, whether they have or not, i.e. the rabbi will not list a girl as a virgin on her Ketubah if she has enlisted in the army--meaning she is barred from marrying a Cohen, and her prospects of marriage are greatly diminished.

So, before you go off saying these girls are not true Zionists because they won't enlist, hold your tongue.

If you want an army that includes these girls, do what they do for the religious men: put them into combat units made up entirely of religious women, commanded by women, taught by women.

This will not only solve the marriage issue, but it will also provide an opportunity for young religious women to consider staying in the army a bit longer than their required service in order to command and teach other religious women.

Right-wing weekly reports army no longer accepting of girls' claims they are religious, even when backed by rabbinate statements. MK Ariel: Religious community won't put up with this; in any case, women's enlistment harmful to society.,7340,L-3560891,00.html
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 06.27.08, 07:18 / Israel Jewish Scene

The right-wing weekly Besheva reported Thursday that the Israel Defense Forces has recently toughened its stance on the issue of enlistment of young religious women, and the secretaries at the recruitment offices are no longer accepting the religious statements given to girls by the local rabbinates with the previous ease.

According to the report, the army is attempting to persuade the girls to enlist "using appeals and emotional pressure."

Tzurit Shmuel, an 11th grade student at the Beit Shlomit Ulpana in Jerusalem, described a verbal confrontation that took place between her and the secretary who took care of her file at the enlistment office.

"So what if you're religious?" she was asked. "The fact you have a statement doesn't mean you are exempt… You haven't served in the army, but I have and I'm here to tell you that in the army there is no problem with keeping kosher and the Sabbath. Even if you're religious, you can still serve."

When she attempted to protest, the secretary told Shmuel not to be rude to her, and continued to question her religiousness with questions like, "Do you say a prayer when you come out of the bathroom?"

When the young woman attempted to explain that rabbis prohibit women from enlisting, the secretary told her, "It's too bad you're not religious and don't know why you are not enlisting, but rather merely following rabbis' orders." Finally the secretary agreed to accept the religious statement, but Shmuel's case is not the only one that has been reported.

MK Uri Ariel (National Union-National Religious Party) has turned to Deputy Defense Minister Matan Vilnai and demanded that the latter instruct IDF personnel to stop these encounters from occurring.

"Descriptions of such occurrences at enlistment offices are very serious, and the religious community will not put up with them," Ariel wrote.

"In any case, the enlistment of women to the army is not beneficial to Israeli society in the long run. Israeli society, its values, its traditions, and its economy are damaged by this service."

Despite Ynet's appeals, a response from the IDF has not yet been received.


  1. For what its worth Tzippy just got her draft exception last week with no problem what so ever.

    I know of several girls who went threw the army and seemed to have no problems getting married.

  2. B"H

    Mozel Tov! I hope that Zippy finds a great alternative way to serve Israel.

    I think the girls you know are probably blessed with a sane Zionist rabbi--but not all girls are equally blessed, unfortunately.

    We need to have this whole issue brought to light, as I think many girls are being harmed by not being able to serve their country in the way that they want to.

    Shabbat Shalom, my friend! May Hashm watch over you, your beautiful family, and our Holy Land.

    I still pray every week from the Siddurim that you and Charlie sent me in Nevada. So, blessings come your way often!

  3. According to my wife they went to the rabbinute the rabbi looked at her for about 2 seconds and stamped her paper, she could have been anyone, it was not a rabbi who knew us. That being said I have heard of other people who have had problems, so it may just depend on who happens to be working on the day you go in.


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